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| Xavier Antoviaque |
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Hello,
I have bad news this time. Our offer has been declined by the court.
At the end, there were three offers presented, and the other two were bigger than our's. They are keeping more employees than we do, and offer more money. We should get the details of the other offers soon, so I should be able to tell you more then. In the meantime, I'd like to personally congratulate the winner, Gameforge, and I wish them good luck.
Now, what do I think of the current situation? That we have lost a battle, but not the game. |
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| BlasterCalm |
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:52 pm |
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| nicklinn |
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:53 pm |
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It was a noble battle and well fought. On behalf of myself would like to thank you for your valiant work.
Best of luck,
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| valentin |
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:37 pm |
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for my part this story is to be continued until we succeed in freeing a mmo.
in order to go further we now have lots if interrested people to speak with, proposing money or knowhow, to build a proposition that could be interesting for a mmo owner.
so please keep in touch, this story is just beginning and will shurely end up nicely.
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| quim.rovira |
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:58 pm |
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No time to complain.. we just have to wait for feedback from gameforge to know which direction the destiny of Ryzom is pointing..
On another hand, the MOST wonderful thing is how this situation has brought together many voices to work for what we consider a common cause. For me, this is a "Congratulations, everyone for such a nice effort", and not a complain for what might have happened instead.
*goes away to wash out blue feeling with beer* |
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| frakel |
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:32 pm |
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This was not a defeat! Instead this whole process has been a significant victory for the free ryzom campaign. We got more than 170.000 euros in donation pledges! Amazing!
So we didnt get to buy Ryzom, but at least it seems to be in good hands now.
(Im confident Gameforge will continue to develop the game and take care of the world of Atys.)
But what a statement we made! This is not just ´old hippies´ trying to by their pet game - this was a first step down the path of tomorrow. One that will be remembered. |
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| bouncer |
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:39 pm |
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| We did not own the rights of the game in any moment so we did not loose anything. Instead we took advantage of the chance that was present, and more chances can be there in the near future. Only we decide whether to be in conditions to confront that new opportunities or not. |
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| Olivier |
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:42 pm |
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Unfortunately, i must admit I do not share my colleagues' feeling.
Defeat would not leave such a bitter taste in my mouth if I felt the battle had been fought fairly. Despite our best efforts - and we tried *hard* - we were consistently ignored by both the administrator and the liquidator. We were repeatedly given inadequate information and were not even notified of the final hearing. We never had a chance of presenting our project : neither to the liquidator nor even to the juge.
The whole thing reeks of partisanship.
I hope Ryzom will prosper under its new ownership, but I really fear the worst. Nevrax had deluded itself into thinking it could keep Ryzom running with a high burn rate. It looks like the delusion lives on. May I be proven wrong.
I apologize to everyone here, to all of you that shared this dream of a "Free as in Freedom" Ryzom. I so wish we could have brought it back to you and made it a reality. We failed, but it is not for lack of trying. Here, I need to tip my hat to both my partners who did a brilliant job and spared no effort. We fell short but we came a long way and we have nothing to be ashamed of.
I have been living with the dream of a Free Software persistent world for seven years now. I did not give it up the first time I lost Ryzom and I have no intention of giving it up now.
It's time to get back to work.
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| doctormo |
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:00 pm |
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| It was a good attempt, now we need to figure out where to go from here. |
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| Neije |
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:07 pm |
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Quote: We were repeatedly given inadequate information and were not even notified of the final hearing. We never had a chance of presenting our project : neither to the liquidator nor even to the juge.
Is that normal ? I mean if you were not notified or anything then the jugment is not valide ? This seems really odd to me. |
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| Xavier Antoviaque |
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:15 pm |
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Neije wrote: Is that normal ? I mean if you were not notified or anything then the jugment is not valide ? This seems really odd to me.
We don't know yet, we'll need to have a look at the proposals and procedure documents to make sure everything was done properly. |
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| acidtest |
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:19 pm |
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Too bad !
Nice job, though ! (I know, it does't compensate for losing)
But it seems Ryzom, was out of reach for us on both grounds : jobs saved and value.
No regrets !
Quote: We don't know yet, we'll need to have a look at the proposals and procedure documents to make sure everything was done properly.
Well, i would be surprised we could have a claim case. If our proposal was not competitive with others, it is quite normal (even, if not polite) that we were kept off the race |
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| quim.rovira |
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:27 pm |
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Xavier Antoviaque wrote: Neije wrote: Is that normal ? I mean if you were not notified or anything then the jugment is not valide ? This seems really odd to me.
We don't know yet, we'll need to have a look at the proposals and procedure documents to make sure everything was done properly.
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I don't think a legal study on the case is worth the try.. well, maybe yes, but we should try not to be obstructive and (for example) try to get the judge to review everything and keep the actual situation frozen unless we got a really good reason. 
Indeed, I think as previously stated, that this project has been home for very good things, and so, I do believe deep in my heart that we must go on with the project.. most of us love ryzom, but all of us loved the ideals behind the project. |
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| Cayle |
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:33 pm |
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| There will be other candidates in the future. Perhaps one already exists; e.g. AC2 if Turbine would be winning to be bought out of the rights. If not, a candidate will turn up sometime. Patience is required. |
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| Xavier Antoviaque |
| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:43 pm |
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acidtest wrote: Well, i would be surprised we could have a claim case. If our proposal was not competitive with others, it is quite normal (even, if not polite) that we were kept off the race
That's what I think too, even if it would have been good to at least hear what people have to say, but well. We'll look at the other proposals anyway, since it's good to understand the details here. |
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